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Post by vikesfan on Jan 16, 2023 9:59:32 GMT -5
Tip is at 7:00pm on ESPN+. Game is at Fort Wayne. PFW is favored by 5.5 points. Huge game for the Vikes, a win moves them into a tie for first place in the league.
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Post by azvike83 on Jan 16, 2023 10:23:49 GMT -5
I will be there....
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Post by azvike83 on Jan 16, 2023 10:40:29 GMT -5
This will be a tough game
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Post by gbanks on Jan 16, 2023 18:22:44 GMT -5
The Vikes finish the 1st half of the conference play this week with 3 games on the road. Like to see the Vikes get all 3 grames.
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Post by vikesfan on Jan 16, 2023 19:26:30 GMT -5
We need to start talking about the impact and potential of Tae Williams more. Not a great shooter but he’s been phenomenal on the defensive side, outworks everyone, rebounds well, and slashes to the hoop really well with his size and athleticism. Phenomenal impact for a newcomer.
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Post by vikesfan on Jan 16, 2023 19:49:28 GMT -5
Up 32-26 at half.
Going to continue to gush about Williams. 10 points and 4 offensive rebounds in 1H.
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2023 19:51:58 GMT -5
First half was literally the best CSU could possibly play
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Post by vikesfan on Jan 16, 2023 21:02:45 GMT -5
Great game by the vikes, led handedly for the majority of the game. Tristan Enaruna dominated this game in the 2H. 20 second half points.
72-60 win for the Vikes. Beat a good team, on the road, by double digits… team seems to be clicking.
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Post by gbanks on Jan 16, 2023 22:24:43 GMT -5
Good performance by the Vikes and definitely the best game I seen Tristan play.
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Post by azvike83 on Jan 16, 2023 22:30:19 GMT -5
Was at the game...Tristan Eneruna is a force for this team. He showed leadership, toughness, bounce, hustle and athleticism all night long and the whole team recognized it. I almost cant believe we will have him for another year, Tae was fantastic also. 16 offensive rebounds tonight also and 14-16 from the line (Tristan was 9-10. Another guy that really impressed me was Drew Lowder...DeShon was solid and steady again as well....A very solid night for our Vikings!...Keep it rolling fellas!
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Jan 17, 2023 4:09:15 GMT -5
Hopefully a flip switched for Enaruna in that 2nd half. He sometimes looks like he’s coasting along just waiting for the game to come to him. In the 2nd half, it’s like he realized no one could guard him and he just took over. Still only 13 shot attempts but he got to the line 11 times. I’ve said this before, but he should be averaging over 15 shots per game.
Great game for the Vikes and a huge road win!
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Post by vikesfan on Jan 17, 2023 10:59:48 GMT -5
Tristan Enaruna now averaging 16.8ppg/6.5rpg in conference play. Good for 10th and 11th in conference. Enaruna is 10th in FG % and 4th in FT %.
Tae Williams now averaging 12.9ppg/6.6rpg in conference play. Good for 16th and 10th in conference. Williams is 3rd in FG %.
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Post by gbanks on Jan 18, 2023 10:22:44 GMT -5
Tristan Enaruna now averaging 16.8ppg/6.5rpg in conference play. Good for 10th and 11th in conference. Enaruna is 10th in FG % and 4th in FT %. Tae Williams now averaging 12.9ppg/6.6rpg in conference play. Good for 16th and 10th in conference. Williams is 3rd in FG %. Tae needs to be able to hit shots to help stretch the floor (like Hodge). |
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Jan 18, 2023 10:55:13 GMT -5
Tristan Enaruna now averaging 16.8ppg/6.5rpg in conference play. Good for 10th and 11th in conference. Enaruna is 10th in FG % and 4th in FT %. Tae Williams now averaging 12.9ppg/6.6rpg in conference play. Good for 16th and 10th in conference. Williams is 3rd in FG %. Tae needs to be able to hit shots to help stretch the floor (like Hodge). That isn’t in his game at all. He’s a super athlete, he plays with tremendous energy, and he’s a pretty good slasher. But he’s just not a shooter. |
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Post by azvike83 on Jan 18, 2023 11:36:23 GMT -5
Tae needs to be able to hit shots to help stretch the floor (like Hodge). That isn’t in his game at all. He’s a super athlete, he plays with tremendous energy, and he’s a pretty good slasher. But he’s just not a shooter. Frankie is right....but if he can develop a 3 pt shot (even at a 30-35% clip) opponents would have to respect that, making him even more effective and harder to guard with his quickness/athleticism/slashing ability. Having Tae and Tristan back again is huge... |
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Post by ede on Jan 18, 2023 12:06:11 GMT -5
That isn’t in his game at all. He’s a super athlete, he plays with tremendous energy, and he’s a pretty good slasher. But he’s just not a shooter. Frankie is right....but if he can develop a 3 pt shot (even at a 30-35% clip) opponents would have to respect that, making him even more effective and harder to guard with his quickness/athleticism/slashing ability. Having Tae and Tristan back again is huge... He needs to make it apart of his game. |
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Post by gbanks on Jan 18, 2023 13:36:28 GMT -5
I agree. Tae is a great slash and dunk. But defenses are aware. Limits him to transition or back cuts (which I don't see). Kind of a Issac Okoro role were the D plays off of him and cheat to cover the the bigger threat.
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Post by vikesfan on Jan 18, 2023 14:45:50 GMT -5
Would I like for Tae to improve there? Yes, it would be nice for him to become a serviceable shooter. But not everyone on the floor or a team needs or should be a shooter.
The Warriors didn’t ask Draymond Green to become a good shooter.
You have guys to rebound, guys to slash, guys to shoot, guys to defend, etc. good team have players that fit all roles. Asking Williams to be what he isn’t - when he’s really good at what he does - is misguided IMO.
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Post by gbanks on Jan 18, 2023 15:50:31 GMT -5
Would I like for Tae to improve there? Yes, it would be nice for him to become a serviceable shooter. But not everyone on the floor or a team needs or should be a shooter. The Warriors didn’t ask Draymond Green to become a good shooter. You have guys to rebound, guys to slash, guys to shoot, guys to defend, etc. good team have players that fit all roles. Asking Williams to be what he isn’t - when he’s really good at what he does - is misguided IMO. OK, you got me and great points. This is not a knock on Tae. When viewing the starters, they score in the paint. When the Vikes inserted Woodrich, that was one less person in the paint. When everything is in the paint, this impacts Tae and makes him a little less effective. If you noticed, we tend to win games when someone starts hitting 3s and opens up the driving lanes. Unfortunately, the Vikes are very streaky outside shooting team. When they don't drop, its fugly and our D keeps us competitive (but not forever). So image a team with all Draymond Greens. Hmm on second thought, lets not. But, I think you get my point. Someone, anyone has to keep the D honest. |
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Post by vikesfan on Jan 18, 2023 16:22:41 GMT -5
Would I like for Tae to improve there? Yes, it would be nice for him to become a serviceable shooter. But not everyone on the floor or a team needs or should be a shooter. The Warriors didn’t ask Draymond Green to become a good shooter. You have guys to rebound, guys to slash, guys to shoot, guys to defend, etc. good team have players that fit all roles. Asking Williams to be what he isn’t - when he’s really good at what he does - is misguided IMO. OK, you got me and great points. This is not a knock on Tae. When viewing the starters, they score in the paint. When the Vikes inserted Woodrich, that was one less person in the paint. When everything is in the paint, this impacts Tae and makes him a little less effective. If you noticed, we tend to win games when someone starts hitting 3s and opens up the driving lanes. Unfortunately, the Vikes are very streaky outside shooting team. When they don't drop, its fugly and our D keeps us competitive (but not forever). So image a team with all Draymond Greens. Hmm on second thought, lets not. But, I think you get my point. Someone, anyone has to keep the D honest. Agreed, unfortunately this team isn’t a complete team with the coaching turnover. Ideally Parker or Williams could stretch the floor along with Woodrich. Unfortunately, out to 4 players don’t shoot well because this isn’t a perfect team. The bench is shortened to really 2 people in competitive games. Lowder and Hill. Ideally. 2 of Lowder, Hill, and Woodrich are on the floor for the majority of games spelling Williams and Parker. However, the Parker, Williams, Enaruna, and Johnson pairing is extremely efficient defensively together so it’s tough to not play those guys together. Game will dictate (or should dictate) who gets playing time based on need and game situation. I’d also love to see Drake start to get minutes over Hill… |
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Post by azvike83 on Jan 18, 2023 16:27:30 GMT -5
Great discussions and viewpoints....I love it when this board is active and engaged....GO VIKES!
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Post by vikesfan on Jan 18, 2023 22:12:04 GMT -5
Great discussions and viewpoints....I love it when this board is active and engaged....GO VIKES! Agreed. Love to see this immunity active and supporting the Vikes. Credit to the team and athletics department to give us something worth discussing passionately. |
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Jan 19, 2023 4:28:03 GMT -5
Great discussion. I’ve said a couple times that although I’m a fan of Tae, I don’t think his offensive game is a good fit with the rest of the starting lineup. If we had shooters playing PG and PF, he’d be a much better fit at the 3. I’d be interested in seeing an offensive lineup with Tae at the 4 and Enaruna at the 5, with all of our shooters playing 1-3. Something like Lowder, Hill, Woodrich, Williams, Enaruna.
But we really only have a shooter playing the 2 in most lineups, and that slot is the only one that’s rotated, with Price, Lowder, Hill (mostly) and now Woodrich getting starts. I think our best offensive 5 includes two of Lowder, Woodrich and Hill (in that order), but for some reason they’re mainly subbing for each other.
And as someone already mentioned, Tae at the 3 with Enaruna and Johnson is our best defensive lineup, so there’s definitely room for that too. I’d toggle back and forth depending on opponent and situation between our best offensive lineup and best defensive lineup.
I’d bracket it like this:
Offense
Parker/Lowder
Lowder/Hill
Woodrich/Williams
Enaruna/Williams
Johnson/Enaruna
Defense
Parker/Lowder
Hill/Woodrich
Williams/Woodrich
Enaruna/Middleton
Johnson/Middleton
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