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Post by Admin on Mar 22, 2022 19:20:30 GMT -5
The King himself has weighed in on CSU's coaching search!
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Post by gbanks on Mar 22, 2022 19:21:07 GMT -5
Who ever is chosen to replace Gates, I hope they are the type that will be good enough to be taken away in few years. I was really tired of seeing coaches leave because they under performed. Picking a coach that is looking for that final coat of polish before they hit the stage is not a bad place for the Vikes program. A few iterations of winning coaches may turn the Vikes into a destination program.
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Post by gbanks on Mar 22, 2022 19:28:27 GMT -5
The King himself has weighed in on CSU's coaching search! It's good to be the king!
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Post by ede on Mar 22, 2022 19:45:32 GMT -5
The King himself has weighed in on CSU's coaching search! It's good to be the king! That's a glowing endorsement. Lebron would make a nice booster for the program if we hired Joyce Not to mention his dad coaches one of the top highschool programs in the nation. I hope they at least keep Joyce as a assistant.
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Post by Admin on Mar 24, 2022 15:26:03 GMT -5
I am going to take "a shot in the dark" at CSU's next coach. I looked at the credentials Dennis Gates had when he was hired, and my official guess is going to be CSU hires Gonzaga's Brian Michaelson.
9th season this year as an assistant for a consistent top national program. 40 years old. He has been the one that has landed all of Gonzaga's best transfers. The Superfan is throwing it out there as his official guess on CSU's next coach with absolutely zero inside info.
I suppose people could say “he’s a west coast guy he won’t come here”. He is from Portland and coached in Washington state. So that could be correct. No one knows the guy if he would or not. I just think using the Dennis Gates mold, he is an excellent fit.
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 24, 2022 18:58:36 GMT -5
Hopefully the $600K payout from Mizzou helps us raise the profile of who we wan hire here. That or put working scoreboards in the arena.
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Post by ede on Mar 24, 2022 19:36:57 GMT -5
I am going to take "a shot in the dark" at CSU's next coach. I looked at the credentials Dennis Gates had when he was hired, and my official guess is going to be CSU hires Gonzaga's Brian Michaelson. 9th season this year as an assistant for a consistent top national program. 40 years old. He has been the one that has landed all of Gonzaga's best transfers. The Superfan is throwing it out there as his official guess on CSU's next coach with absolutely zero inside info. I suppose people could say “he’s a west coast guy he won’t come here”. He is from Portland and coached in Washington state. So that could be correct. No one knows the guy if he would or not. I just think using the Dennis Gates mold, he is an excellent fit. can he recruit the midwest and east coast. Someone could Ohio recruiting ties helps as well.
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 25, 2022 8:04:51 GMT -5
Chris Mack could be an intriguing hire. Ohio roots, succeeds at Xavier, failed at Louisville, looking for another job…
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Post by azvike83 on Mar 25, 2022 8:37:47 GMT -5
Chris Mack could be an intriguing hire. Ohio roots, succeeds at Xavier, failed at Louisville, looking for another job… Doubtful...Mack was making 2.2 Mill at X...and then 4.2 at Louisville...no way we can come anywhere near even the lower number.
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Post by ede on Mar 25, 2022 11:13:48 GMT -5
Chris Mack could be an intriguing hire. Ohio roots, succeeds at Xavier, failed at Louisville, looking for another job… Doubtful...Mack was making 2.2 Mill at X...and then 4.2 at Louisville...no way we can come anywhere near even the lower number. I agree but what if he feel he's made plenty of money. And just wants a challenge (see Rick Pitino) it's not impossible.
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Post by gbanks on Mar 25, 2022 11:30:32 GMT -5
Chris Mack could be an intriguing hire. Ohio roots, succeeds at Xavier, failed at Louisville, looking for another job… Doubtful...Mack was making 2.2 Mill at X...and then 4.2 at Louisville...no way we can come anywhere near even the lower number. Gary Waters took a pay cut after leaving Rutgers to coach at CSU. just a quick search on Chris Mack and apparently Chris departure was not very clean. I read in a couple articles the following: " The settlement between Mack, the university's Board of Trustees and the Louisville Athletic Association is $4.8 million to be paid over three years." Not sure what to make of this statement. " About an hour after announcing Mack’s suspension, his former assistant, Dino Gaudio, was sentenced to one year of probation and a $10,000 fine for attempting to extort Mack. When Mack told Gaudio in March that his contract wasn’t being renewed, Gaudio threatened to go public with NCAA violations the program had committed. Mack recorded the conversation and turned it over to the Louisville administration, which spawned yet another criminal case involving the Cardinals and yet another men’s basketball NCAA infractions case. The saga, as they say, is ongoing." I have a feeling this will not be a money issue.
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Post by azvike83 on Mar 25, 2022 15:14:32 GMT -5
Seems like they are really keeping this search quiet....not really hearing much....
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 25, 2022 15:14:39 GMT -5
I’m surprised there hasn’t been any news or names come out other than Joyce and Summers. Thought this would be done quickly to try to keep the core in place, the recruits in place, and scour the portal.
Though, good news we’ve seen nothing in terms of transfers yet from Hodge, Johnson, Gomillion, etc. speaks to how tight nit this crew is.
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Post by ede on Mar 25, 2022 15:33:25 GMT -5
I’m surprised there hasn’t been any news or names come out other than Joyce and Summers. Thought this would be done quickly to try to keep the core in place, the recruits in place, and scour the portal. Though, good news we’ve seen nothing in terms of transfers yet from Hodge, Johnson, Gomillion, etc. speaks to how tight nit this crew is. Hodge is the main concern. He was courted by high majors and I can see him playing at Missouri. Who will be on the schedule next year btw.
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Post by ede on Mar 26, 2022 19:54:21 GMT -5
What's you guys opinion on John Brennan knows Ohio real well. Good recruiter? I personally put him in my top 5. But I still want it to be Kimbrough/Joyce/Summers. But Brennan is a while card.
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Post by ac on Mar 26, 2022 22:35:07 GMT -5
You talking about coach cincinnati fired if so did you read the about his issues there?
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Post by ede on Mar 27, 2022 0:32:19 GMT -5
You talking about coach cincinnati fired if so did you read the about his issues there? There's two sides to that story. A lot of people including the Cincinnati football coach at the time thought his firing was BS. A lot of people in the coaching profession though how things went down was wrong on UC part and a lot of his former players stand by him.
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 27, 2022 8:41:18 GMT -5
Brennan would be a gamble. If your AD is willing to take a little heat with the media and boosters when he makes the hire, it could be a really good hire for you. He built NKU from nothing. The 3 years prior to him taking over at NKU, they went 11-6, 9-21, and 13-17 during their transition to D1. After he took over, they went 9-21, 24-11, 22-10, and 26-9. In 4 seasons, he took NKU to the NIT once and the NCAA tournament 2 times and he brought in top 1 or 2 recruiting classes every year. He can coach and he can recruit as good as anyone in the HL. The question is would your AD be willing to put his job on the line by hiring a controversial coach and how will his past scandal at UC effect his ability to recruit kids in the future. Every coach recruiting against him in the future is going to use the reason he was fired at UC against him when they walk into a recruit's home. We don’t have any legit boosters that would give a shit. Also we currently have zero local media coverage. The national media might spend 15 second on it. Our AD is going to be in the running for a better job shortly. All that being said I think he is exploring a lot of options. The job is way more attractive this time around then last time.
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Post by ede on Mar 27, 2022 9:51:57 GMT -5
Our AD is going to be in the running for a better job shortly. Another reason why your AD might not want to take the risk. He would have to explain the decision to hire a controversial coach at CSU wherever he tries to find his own next job. No more heat than IONA received when they hired Rick Pitino or Auburn when they hired Bruce Pearl. And didn't Xavier just hired Sean Miller? What they were accused of was far worse than what Brennan was accused of.
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 28, 2022 9:41:46 GMT -5
The longer the coaching search stays quiet, the more I think this is an internal promotion. No outside names have been linked and were over a week since Gates to Mizzou news broke.
My guess is Summers promoted to HC while Joyce gets promoted to Associate HC.
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Mar 28, 2022 10:28:32 GMT -5
The longer the coaching search stays quiet, the more I think this is an internal promotion. No outside names have been linked and were over a week since Gates to Mizzou news broke. My guess is Summers promoted to HC while Joyce gets promoted to Associate HC. I actually feel the opposite. If it were internal they could have made that move immediately. The longer it goes, the more I think they're engaging other candidates.
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 28, 2022 11:07:28 GMT -5
The longer the coaching search stays quiet, the more I think this is an internal promotion. No outside names have been linked and were over a week since Gates to Mizzou news broke. My guess is Summers promoted to HC while Joyce gets promoted to Associate HC. I actually feel the opposite. If it were internal they could have made that move immediately. The longer it goes, the more I think they're engaging other candidates. Maybe. But the fact that there hasn’t been a transfer yet, and there hasn’t been any news of external names connected is interesting to me. Not like there is a ton of media coverage of the team to leak if they’re in discussions with one of the internal coaches to be the HC. Just the lack of activity with external candidates and no transfers might mean to me it’s an internal hire that gives continuity to the team and players are staying cause of it. I could, of course, be wrong.
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Post by ede on Mar 28, 2022 14:27:36 GMT -5
The longer the coaching search stays quiet, the more I think this is an internal promotion. No outside names have been linked and were over a week since Gates to Mizzou news broke. My guess is Summers promoted to HC while Joyce gets promoted to Associate HC. I actually feel the opposite. If it were internal they could have made that move immediately. The longer it goes, the more I think they're engaging other candidates. They're still actively recruiting sooooo
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Post by gbanks on Mar 28, 2022 15:51:33 GMT -5
The active recruiting and lack of xfers indicates that either the position will be hired from within or there are assurances that the staff will remain as a condition of hiring someone else. So why the delay? I could be that a contract needs to be worked out.
I personally do not have a preference. Can't this is all sorted out by the end of April? Landing Gates in the summer was luck.
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Post by ede on Mar 28, 2022 16:53:46 GMT -5
The active recruiting and lack of xfers indicates that either the position will be hired from within or there are assurances that the staff will remain as a condition of hiring someone else. So why the delay? I could be that a contract needs to be worked out. I personally do not have a preference. Can't this is all sorted out by the end of April? Landing Gates in the summer was luck. I agree and I've visited both Pryor, Young, Brody Twitter page,Lual as well; crickets. I'd be surprised if this is not a promotion from within or a special deal about keeping the current staff.
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Post by ede on Mar 28, 2022 16:59:00 GMT -5
Spoke too soon Brody's gone
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 28, 2022 16:59:13 GMT -5
The active recruiting and lack of xfers indicates that either the position will be hired from within or there are assurances that the staff will remain as a condition of hiring someone else. So why the delay? I could be that a contract needs to be worked out. I personally do not have a preference. Can't this is all sorted out by the end of April? Landing Gates in the summer was luck. I agree and I've visited both Pryor, Young, Brody Twitter page,Lual as well; crickets. I'd be surprised if this is not a promotion from within or a special deal about keeping the current staff. And just like that, Boyer decommits.
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 28, 2022 19:29:15 GMT -5
I would be really surprised if it’s internal at this point. Even more then I would have been before. If it ends up being internal I think it would be due us getting turned down by multiple other candidates.
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 28, 2022 19:42:41 GMT -5
Also they hired CSA as the search firm. If they were going internal there would be zero reason to hire the search firm.
The coaches are still recruiting because they are still under contract.
There is no guarantee any of them are still on staff and they are not going to hire a coach and then force the assistant staff on him.
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Post by ede on Mar 28, 2022 20:06:41 GMT -5
Also they hired CSA as the search firm. If they were going internal there would be zero reason to hire the search firm. The coaches are still recruiting because they are still under contract. There is no guarantee any of them are still on staff and they are not going to hire a coach and then force the assistant staff on him. why still recruit if u may not have job in a few days. How can u recruit or even offer a kid with that hanging over your head.whatcab they tell a prospective recruit.
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