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Post by gbanks on Mar 8, 2022 15:36:23 GMT -5
** Thread Hijack Alert ** FYI... Gates name is popping up again. He was mentioned in a couple snippets indicating that Gates is one of the 4 candidates For Georgia's next Basketball Coach.
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Post by ede on Mar 8, 2022 17:53:58 GMT -5
A day after getting knocked outta the tournament and guys already go Gates and Hodge leaving. Lol. Wow.
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Mar 8, 2022 20:34:30 GMT -5
I think I’ve finally put my finger on what aggravates me about the tone from some on this board. When we win it’s not pretty enough because we should be winning by more and closing out games better. When we lose it’s because we don’t have enough talent and we need better guards and more size.
But it can’t be both ways. Either we’re a team that lacks elite talent that is finding ways to grind out wins but will occasionally stumble, or we’re the most talented team that should rarely lose. We’re either overachievers or underachievers, but not both.
And by the way, however you classify them, that team just won back-to-back regular season conference championships for only the second time in program history (1985-86).
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Post by henrymuto on Mar 8, 2022 21:06:52 GMT -5
Northern Kentucky blew that game up 16 with 11 minutes left that is going to leave a mark. Down 1 with 10 seconds left they didn't get Warrick a touch instead take a horrible 3 point attempt.
Wright State thought they would win it last year but instead they get the 4 seed and win this year.
Remember all those years when Butler was in the league they got the #1 seed a ton and we always had to try to beat them on their court and only did it once in 2009.
Now that Butler is gone they are doing neutral court which I hate for our kind of conference.
They should have just left it the way it was the #1 seed hosts the quarters and semis and the highest seed hosts the final.
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Post by gbanks on Mar 8, 2022 22:35:21 GMT -5
A day after getting knocked outta the tournament and guys already go Gates and Hodge leaving. Lol. Wow. Rumors are not decisions, they are just unconfirmed reports. Ironically I first saw this on the Green Bay board and then did my own search and saw 3 reports (probably from the same source). Just idle chatter until the next game.
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Post by gbanks on Mar 8, 2022 22:37:04 GMT -5
Northern Kentucky blew that game up 16 with 11 minutes left that is going to leave a mark. Down 1 with 10 seconds left they didn't get Warrick a touch instead take a horrible 3 point attempt. Wright State thought they would win it last year but instead they get the 4 seed and win this year. Remember all those years when Butler was in the league they got the #1 seed a ton and we always had to try to beat them on their court and only did it once in 2009. Now that Butler is gone they are doing neutral court which I hate for our kind of conference. They should have just left it the way it was the #1 seed hosts the quarters and semis and the highest seed hosts the final. I agree with your HLT format suggestion.
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Post by gbanks on Mar 8, 2022 22:50:45 GMT -5
I think I’ve finally put my finger on what aggravates me about the tone from some on this board. When we win it’s not pretty enough because we should be winning by more and closing out games better. When we lose it’s because we don’t have enough talent and we need better guards and more size. But it can’t be both ways. Either we’re a team that lacks elite talent that is finding ways to grind out wins but will occasionally stumble, or we’re the most talented team that should rarely lose. We’re either overachievers or underachievers, but not both. And by the way, however you classify them, that team just won back-to-back regular season conference championships for only the second time in program history (1985-86). I was really looking forward to joining the rest of the mob with pitch forks and torches. Couldn't find a match, went home.
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Post by Admin on Mar 9, 2022 9:51:25 GMT -5
Fans of Georgia, Georgetown, UMass and even Ohio State want Gates on twitter. Doesn't mean anything at this point A day after getting knocked outta the tournament and guys already go Gates and Hodge leaving. Lol. Wow. Rumors are not decisions, they are just unconfirmed reports. Ironically I first saw this on the Green Bay board and then did my own search and saw 3 reports (probably from the same source). Just idle chatter until the next game.
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Post by ede on Mar 9, 2022 12:21:46 GMT -5
Fans of Georgia, Georgetown, UMass and even Ohio State want Gates on twitter. Doesn't mean anything at this point Rumors are not decisions, they are just unconfirmed reports. Ironically I first saw this on the Green Bay board and then did my own search and saw 3 reports (probably from the same source). Just idle chatter until the next game. Ohio State?
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Post by ede on Mar 9, 2022 13:06:47 GMT -5
Will we need more $$$ to keep Gates?
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Post by gbanks on Mar 9, 2022 13:11:33 GMT -5
Will we need more $$$ to keep Gates? I think you are over reacting a tad.
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 9, 2022 13:36:52 GMT -5
I think I’ve finally put my finger on what aggravates me about the tone from some on this board. When we win it’s not pretty enough because we should be winning by more and closing out games better. When we lose it’s because we don’t have enough talent and we need better guards and more size. But it can’t be both ways. Either we’re a team that lacks elite talent that is finding ways to grind out wins but will occasionally stumble, or we’re the most talented team that should rarely lose. We’re either overachievers or underachievers, but not both. And by the way, however you classify them, that team just won back-to-back regular season conference championships for only the second time in program history (1985-86). I think you are underplaying how bad the conference is. I mean we won the regular season conference without even a legit PG. Gomillion is a good player but he isn’t a PG. You can not have elite talent and still be expected to win this conference. One way or the other a team without much talent was winning this conference.
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Post by ede on Mar 9, 2022 16:27:49 GMT -5
I think I’ve finally put my finger on what aggravates me about the tone from some on this board. When we win it’s not pretty enough because we should be winning by more and closing out games better. When we lose it’s because we don’t have enough talent and we need better guards and more size. But it can’t be both ways. Either we’re a team that lacks elite talent that is finding ways to grind out wins but will occasionally stumble, or we’re the most talented team that should rarely lose. We’re either overachievers or underachievers, but not both. And by the way, however you classify them, that team just won back-to-back regular season conference championships for only the second time in program history (1985-86). I think you are underplaying how bad the conference is. I mean we won the regular season conference without even a legit PG. Gomillion is a good player but he isn’t a PG. You can not have elite talent and still be expected to win this conference. One way or the other a team without much talent was winning this conference. ah there is the TOTO we all know, never nothing positive to say. Feeling our most talented player should transfer just as the program is getting better. U say ur a CSU fan but wish the worse on it then criticize the program for "Lack of Talent." Then at the same time saying it's a good idea if our most gifted player (Hodge) transfers. Am I missing something?
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Post by Admin on Mar 9, 2022 16:34:58 GMT -5
He's being realistic. Every mid major in today's world has to worry about transfers out. He didn't say Hodge was leaving for sure. He just stated a fact that a lot of good mid major players in today's world leave for a power 5 team. That's reality
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 9, 2022 19:11:14 GMT -5
I think you are underplaying how bad the conference is. I mean we won the regular season conference without even a legit PG. Gomillion is a good player but he isn’t a PG. You can not have elite talent and still be expected to win this conference. One way or the other a team without much talent was winning this conference. ah there is the TOTO we all know, never nothing positive to say. Feeling our most talented player should transfer just as the program is getting better. U say ur a CSU fan but wish the worse on it then criticize the program for "Lack of Talent." Then at the same time saying it's a good idea if our most gifted player (Hodge) transfers. Am I missing something? Yes obviously you are missing a general lack of competence. You obviously realize that I meant it was in the best interest of Hodge to transfer correct? If he has a chance to play in a power 5 school and play for a contender I think he should do it for himself. As far as the talent do you really think this team and this conference is talented? We are 27th out of 32 in RPI conference ranking and 27th in AVG NET rankings. Our average was 259th. This team lost in the semis. This team got destroyed by Houston when it made the tournament last year. Wright State will likely get rocked also. Yes they need more talent. Yes the entire conference needs more talent. Without it this conference is heading towards perennial 16 seeds and hoping for a 15. That’s basketball irrelevance. I think we can all agree that the conference is pretty much dead and there isn’t a ton of long term hope with these schools as a whole. CSUs one hope is to dominate the conference several years in a row and hope they can latch on somewhere else. It’s not even about getting to a multi league bid league it’s about getting to a league in which a 12-14 seed can be possible.
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Post by ede on Mar 9, 2022 19:16:25 GMT -5
He's being realistic. Every mid major in today's world has to worry about transfers out. He didn't say Hodge was leaving for sure. He just stated a fact that a lot of good mid major players in today's world leave for a power 5 team. That's reality I think you need to listen/read to his text again he was talking about their quality of life improves and everything he was basically advocating for Hodge to leave. I understand what the realities of college basketball is but why would a fan of any team advocate for the best player to leave
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Post by ede on Mar 9, 2022 19:18:09 GMT -5
ah there is the TOTO we all know, never nothing positive to say. Feeling our most talented player should transfer just as the program is getting better. U say ur a CSU fan but wish the worse on it then criticize the program for "Lack of Talent." Then at the same time saying it's a good idea if our most gifted player (Hodge) transfers. Am I missing something? Yes obviously you are missing a general lack of competence. You obviously realize that I meant it was in the best interest of Hodge to transfer correct? If he has a chance to play in a power 5 school and play for a contender I think he should do it for himself. As far as the talent do you really think this team and this conference is talented? We are 27th out of 32 in RPI conference ranking and 27th in AVG NET rankings. Our average was 259th. This team lost in the semis. This team got destroyed by Houston when it made the tournament last year. Wright State will likely get rocked also. Yes they need more talent. Yes the entire conference needs more talent. Without it this conference is heading towards perennial 16 seeds and hoping for a 15. That’s basketball irrelevance. I think we can all agree that the conference is pretty much dead and there isn’t a ton of long term hope with these schools as a whole. CSUs one hope is to dominate the conference several years in a row and hope they can latch on somewhere else. It’s not even about getting to a multi league bid league it’s about getting to a league in which a 12-14 seed can be possible. then how do we make the program better Toto how do we make it better we need talented players why would you wish and advocate for our most talented player to leave with your way of thinking the program will never get better
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Post by gbanks on Mar 9, 2022 21:21:11 GMT -5
Yes obviously you are missing a general lack of competence. You obviously realize that I meant it was in the best interest of Hodge to transfer correct? If he has a chance to play in a power 5 school and play for a contender I think he should do it for himself. As far as the talent do you really think this team and this conference is talented? We are 27th out of 32 in RPI conference ranking and 27th in AVG NET rankings. Our average was 259th. This team lost in the semis. This team got destroyed by Houston when it made the tournament last year. Wright State will likely get rocked also. Yes they need more talent. Yes the entire conference needs more talent. Without it this conference is heading towards perennial 16 seeds and hoping for a 15. That’s basketball irrelevance. I think we can all agree that the conference is pretty much dead and there isn’t a ton of long term hope with these schools as a whole. CSUs one hope is to dominate the conference several years in a row and hope they can latch on somewhere else. It’s not even about getting to a multi league bid league it’s about getting to a league in which a 12-14 seed can be possible. then how do we make the program better Toto how do we make it better we need talented players why would you wish and advocate for our most talented player to leave with your way of thinking the program will never get better In the post Butler HL, there has been 3 teams that have left the HL (all to the MVC). Loyola Chicago, Valpo, and UIC. In all 3 cases, they where in or by Chicago. Main attribute location. Of the 3 teams, only 1 had a winning record, Valpo. Homer Drew was at Valpo when Kevin Mackey was at CSU. He established a long winning record at Valpo for many years. When he retired and his son took over for a few years. This is not normal and difficult to replicate. These are not models that the Vikes can directly leverage. It’s going to take a lot of luck for the Vikes (I mean lottery jackpot size luck). Finding what works, leveraging existing strengths and developing new strengths. Mid-size urban commuter state schools may become a sweet spot in a world of shrinking demographics of traditional college age students. Small rural private schools that you find in the MVC will become increasingly desperate in the same world, as schools like CSU should should survive. Those dynamics might provide some external opportunities in both future recruiting or openings in conferences that the small privates can no longer afford to be in. If the Vikes can find a way to keep building a resume, using that to build a recruiting pipeline while keeping finances stable, the program will continue to get better. It will be slow.
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 9, 2022 21:39:15 GMT -5
Yes obviously you are missing a general lack of competence. You obviously realize that I meant it was in the best interest of Hodge to transfer correct? If he has a chance to play in a power 5 school and play for a contender I think he should do it for himself. As far as the talent do you really think this team and this conference is talented? We are 27th out of 32 in RPI conference ranking and 27th in AVG NET rankings. Our average was 259th. This team lost in the semis. This team got destroyed by Houston when it made the tournament last year. Wright State will likely get rocked also. Yes they need more talent. Yes the entire conference needs more talent. Without it this conference is heading towards perennial 16 seeds and hoping for a 15. That’s basketball irrelevance. I think we can all agree that the conference is pretty much dead and there isn’t a ton of long term hope with these schools as a whole. CSUs one hope is to dominate the conference several years in a row and hope they can latch on somewhere else. It’s not even about getting to a multi league bid league it’s about getting to a league in which a 12-14 seed can be possible. then how do we make the program better Toto how do we make it better we need talented players why would you wish and advocate for our most talented player to leave with your way of thinking the program will never get better What’s best for the program and what is best for Hodge are two different things. I want the program to win but if it’s in the best interest of Hodge to explore his options I will always support the player. He doesn’t owe the program anything. The kids busted his ass for us if he comes back I will be thrilled. If he decides to explore other options I will thank him for the time we had him. That kid always plays hard. As for how do we get better the reality is you have to win the game we lost on Monday. You want any shot at getting out of this conference it’s from winning the tournament 3-4 years in a row. Also you need to finish the out of conference games. Quit treating them like exhibitions early in the year. It’s kills our NET rating. If we beat BYU, Oklahoma State and Ohio we could have been a 13-14 seed if we had won the tournament. Outside of that I really don’t know what you do. Seriously if you were a mid major talent would you pick a Horizon League Team Ede or an A-10, MAC, or Missouri Valley school? If you would have made the tournament this year you could have started selling that we will be perennial participants in the tournament. Then you continue to schedule out of conference as tough as possible. The schools in this conference are happy to just get by and don’t have the funding to really change the dynamics.
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Post by ede on Mar 9, 2022 21:40:41 GMT -5
then how do we make the program better Toto how do we make it better we need talented players why would you wish and advocate for our most talented player to leave with your way of thinking the program will never get better In the post Butler HL, there has been 3 teams that have left the HL (all to the MVC). Loyola Chicago, Valpo, and UIC. In all 3 cases, they where in or by Chicago. Main attribute location. Of the 3 teams, only 1 had a winning record, Valpo. Homer Drew was at Valpo when Kevin Mackey was at CSU. He established a long winning record at Valpo for many years. When he retired and his son took over for a few years. This is not normal and difficult to replicate. These are not models that the Vikes can directly leverage. It’s going to take a lot of luck for the Vikes (I mean lottery jackpot size luck). Finding what works, leveraging existing strengths and developing new strengths. Mid-size urban commuter state schools may become a sweet spot in a world of shrinking demographics of traditional college age students. Small rural private schools that you find in the MVC will become increasingly desperate in the same world, as schools like CSU should should survive. Those dynamics might provide some external opportunities in both future recruiting or openings in conferences that the small privates can no longer afford to be in. If the Vikes can find a way to keep building a resume, using that to build a recruiting pipeline while keeping finances stable, the program will continue to get better. It will be slow. Well said and I agree 100percent and we got the man Gates who will build that foundation before he moves on. That's what I want to see for CSU. Not advocating for our best players to leave. That's what hurt the program in the tail end of the Gary Water years. What FAN would want see that happen again. Its redicous to even say it.
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Post by gbanks on Mar 10, 2022 9:30:48 GMT -5
then how do we make the program better Toto how do we make it better we need talented players why would you wish and advocate for our most talented player to leave with your way of thinking the program will never get better What’s best for the program and what is best for Hodge are two different things. I want the program to win but if it’s in the best interest of Hodge to explore his options I will always support the player. He doesn’t owe the program anything. The kids busted his ass for us if he comes back I will be thrilled. If he decides to explore other options I will thank him for the time we had him. That kid always plays hard. As for how do we get better the reality is you have to win the game we lost on Monday. You want any shot at getting out of this conference it’s from winning the tournament 3-4 years in a row. Also you need to finish the out of conference games. Quit treating them like exhibitions early in the year. It’s kills our NET rating. If we beat BYU, Oklahoma State and Ohio we could have been a 13-14 seed if we had won the tournament. Outside of that I really don’t know what you do. Seriously if you were a mid major talent would you pick a Horizon League Team Ede or an A-10, MAC, or Missouri Valley school? If you would have made the tournament this year you could have started selling that we will be perennial participants in the tournament. Then you continue to schedule out of conference as tough as possible. The schools in this conference are happy to just get by and don’t have the funding to really change the dynamics. I think this team met expectations. I'm not sure winning the the BYU, Oklahoma State and Ohio games were in the cards (this year). That would have been a team that consistently played at a higher level and that team would have dominated the HL. This is not a knock on the program. The Vikes are moving in the right direction. They kept those games tight. The player / program dynamics in college sports is not a healthy one. However in life, having a mercenary attitude creates a ceiling for everyone involved. Some reasonable sense of loyalty is import in developing trust. Trust is very important in developing a team.
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 10, 2022 11:52:45 GMT -5
What’s best for the program and what is best for Hodge are two different things. I want the program to win but if it’s in the best interest of Hodge to explore his options I will always support the player. He doesn’t owe the program anything. The kids busted his ass for us if he comes back I will be thrilled. If he decides to explore other options I will thank him for the time we had him. That kid always plays hard. As for how do we get better the reality is you have to win the game we lost on Monday. You want any shot at getting out of this conference it’s from winning the tournament 3-4 years in a row. Also you need to finish the out of conference games. Quit treating them like exhibitions early in the year. It’s kills our NET rating. If we beat BYU, Oklahoma State and Ohio we could have been a 13-14 seed if we had won the tournament. Outside of that I really don’t know what you do. Seriously if you were a mid major talent would you pick a Horizon League Team Ede or an A-10, MAC, or Missouri Valley school? If you would have made the tournament this year you could have started selling that we will be perennial participants in the tournament. Then you continue to schedule out of conference as tough as possible. The schools in this conference are happy to just get by and don’t have the funding to really change the dynamics. I think this team met expectations. I'm not sure winning the the BYU, Oklahoma State and Ohio games were in the cards (this year). That would have been a team that consistently played at a higher level and that team would have dominated the HL. This is not a knock on the program. The Vikes are moving in the right direction. They kept those games tight. The player / program dynamics in college sports is not a healthy one. However in life, having a mercenary attitude creates a ceiling for everyone involved. Some reasonable sense of loyalty is import in developing trust. Trust is very important in developing a team. I agree they met expectations. I didn’t think they would win but the reality is you need those wins to elevate the program. It’s a chicken or egg scenario. In order to recruit better you need to win. In order to win you need to recruit better. That’s why the jump by Gonzaga was so impressive. Even schools that did it struggled to maintain it like Wichita State. It’s almost impossible to do. The reality is though that is what needs to happen for growth.
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 10, 2022 11:55:14 GMT -5
In the post Butler HL, there has been 3 teams that have left the HL (all to the MVC). Loyola Chicago, Valpo, and UIC. In all 3 cases, they where in or by Chicago. Main attribute location. Of the 3 teams, only 1 had a winning record, Valpo. Homer Drew was at Valpo when Kevin Mackey was at CSU. He established a long winning record at Valpo for many years. When he retired and his son took over for a few years. This is not normal and difficult to replicate. These are not models that the Vikes can directly leverage. It’s going to take a lot of luck for the Vikes (I mean lottery jackpot size luck). Finding what works, leveraging existing strengths and developing new strengths. Mid-size urban commuter state schools may become a sweet spot in a world of shrinking demographics of traditional college age students. Small rural private schools that you find in the MVC will become increasingly desperate in the same world, as schools like CSU should should survive. Those dynamics might provide some external opportunities in both future recruiting or openings in conferences that the small privates can no longer afford to be in. If the Vikes can find a way to keep building a resume, using that to build a recruiting pipeline while keeping finances stable, the program will continue to get better. It will be slow. Well said and I agree 100percent and we got the man Gates who will build that foundation before he moves on. That's what I want to see for CSU. Not advocating for our best players to leave. That's what hurt the program in the tail end of the Gary Water years. What FAN would want see that happen again. Its redicous to even say it. Is reading this difficult for you? I said I want him to stay but if he decides to leaving is best for him I 100% support him, Also you didn’t bother to answer my questions.
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Post by ede on Mar 10, 2022 13:22:38 GMT -5
Well said and I agree 100percent and we got the man Gates who will build that foundation before he moves on. That's what I want to see for CSU. Not advocating for our best players to leave. That's what hurt the program in the tail end of the Gary Water years. What FAN would want see that happen again. Its redicous to even say it. Is reading this difficult for you? I said I want him to stay but if he decides to leaving is best for him I 100% support him, Also you didn’t bother to answer my questions. Iam sorry TOTO I find your comments regarding Hodge as baffling given this programs recent past. What"Fan" would even advocate for the best player leaving then say in the same sentence the team/conference lack talent. How do you know CSU isn't what's "best" for Hodge. Ask Ogelsby how thing are going. Why would u want see the SAMETHING that set this program back i.e. the program crippling Transfers of Lewis,Grady and to a lesser degree Forbes, that ended Gary Waters career. For any Viking fan to suggest that is asinine. We got our Dream Coach in Gates. He's improved recruiting and things are getting better. We are going in right direction. There is difference between being "Realistic" as the administrator put it. And having a defeatist mindset. Let's let Hodge decide what's best for him. Do want to see this program live up to it's potential or not?
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 10, 2022 13:27:10 GMT -5
Is reading this difficult for you? I said I want him to stay but if he decides to leaving is best for him I 100% support him, Also you didn’t bother to answer my questions. Iam sorry TOTO I find your comments regarding Hodge as baffling given this programs recent past. What"Fan" would even advocate for the best player leaving then say in the same sentence the team/conference lack talent. How do you know CSU isn't what's "best" for Hodge. Ask Ogelsby how thing are going. Why would u want see the SAMETHING that set this program back i.e. the program crippling Transfers of Lewis,Grady and to a lesser degree Forbes, that ended Gary Waters career. For any Viking fan to suggest that is asinine. We got our Dream Coach in Gates. He's improved recruiting and things are getting better. We are going in right direction. There is difference between being "Realistic" as the administrator put it. And having a defeatist mindset. Let's let Hodge decide what's best for him. Do want to see this program live up to it's potential or not? You just compared Oglesby to Hodge? Using Grady and Forbes as examples proved my point. It worked out well for both of them.
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Post by gbanks on Mar 10, 2022 13:51:10 GMT -5
I think this team met expectations. I'm not sure winning the the BYU, Oklahoma State and Ohio games were in the cards (this year). That would have been a team that consistently played at a higher level and that team would have dominated the HL. This is not a knock on the program. The Vikes are moving in the right direction. They kept those games tight. The player / program dynamics in college sports is not a healthy one. However in life, having a mercenary attitude creates a ceiling for everyone involved. Some reasonable sense of loyalty is import in developing trust. Trust is very important in developing a team. I agree they met expectations. I didn’t think they would win but the reality is you need those wins to elevate the program. It’s a chicken or egg scenario. In order to recruit better you need to win. In order to win you need to recruit better. That’s why the jump by Gonzaga was so impressive. Even schools that did it struggled to maintain it like Wichita State. It’s almost impossible to do. The reality is though that is what needs to happen for growth. Gonzaga and WSU would be very difficult to emulate at CSU. You are talking about donors with deep pockets. I also helps that those schools are in geographically isolated areas (no local competition for sports entertainment $). Perhaps Memphis would be a better model. I'm assuming they had a difficult path to success.
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Post by ede on Mar 10, 2022 14:10:00 GMT -5
I agree they met expectations. I didn’t think they would win but the reality is you need those wins to elevate the program. It’s a chicken or egg scenario. In order to recruit better you need to win. In order to win you need to recruit better. That’s why the jump by Gonzaga was so impressive. Even schools that did it struggled to maintain it like Wichita State. It’s almost impossible to do. The reality is though that is what needs to happen for growth. Gonzaga and WSU would be very difficult to emulate at CSU. You are talking about donors with deep pockets. I also helps that those schools are in geographically isolated areas (no local competition for sports entertainment $). Perhaps Memphis would be a better model. I'm assuming they had a difficult path to success. Cincinnati is a similar school to CSU, metro campus etc. Pro sport competition. It's not impossible. We just need the boosters. I agree it won't be easy.
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Post by stanley on Mar 10, 2022 15:15:39 GMT -5
then how do we make the program better Toto how do we make it better we need talented players why would you wish and advocate for our most talented player to leave with your way of thinking the program will never get better He doesn’t owe the program anything. I don't agree with "He doesn't owe the program anything." That's like saying, "Get all you can out of someone or something and then the heck with them." I know, I get it, that's the way a lot of people think nowadays, but that comes across as shallow.
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Post by stanley on Mar 10, 2022 15:19:20 GMT -5
I think this team met expectations. I'm not sure winning the the BYU, Oklahoma State and Ohio games were in the cards (this year). That would have been a team that consistently played at a higher level and that team would have dominated the HL. This is not a knock on the program. The Vikes are moving in the right direction. They kept those games tight. The player / program dynamics in college sports is not a healthy one. However in life, having a mercenary attitude creates a ceiling for everyone involved. Some reasonable sense of loyalty is import in developing trust. Trust is very important in developing a team. I agree with this for the most part. It would have been nice to get one of those - especially the Oklahoma State game. I felt like that was the one that got away. CSU does need to get out of the Horizon League. It's been going downhill for a decade. How/when CSU gets out is the question. You would think someone would want the Cleveland market. It's not Chicago, but it's not Kalamazoo, either.
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Post by Admin on Mar 10, 2022 16:21:42 GMT -5
You would think someone would want the Cleveland market. It's not Chicago, but it's not Kalamazoo, either. Cleveland is the 19th largest media market in the country, per Nielsen. www.lyonspr.com/latest-nielsen-dma-rankings/
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