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Post by azvike83 on Mar 22, 2022 16:05:08 GMT -5
Lets post all info we get here...
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Post by Admin on Mar 23, 2022 14:04:18 GMT -5
Here's a link to the Transfer Portal itself: www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/2022I will update this list of HL transfers as they happen: Cleveland State: 8 Aria Eskandari Tre Gomillion Chris Greene D'Moi Hodge Mabor Majak Anderson Mirambeaux Jeremy Sanchez Demetrius Terry Detroit: 1 Jamail Pink Green Bay: 9 Emmanuel Ansong Ryan Claflin Donovan Ivory Japannah Kellogg III Tutu Majok Donavan Moore Lucas Stieber Blayton Williams Kamari McGee IUPUI: 7 Jonah Carrasco Mike DePersia Bobby Harvey Bakari LaStrap Nathan McClure K.J. Pruitt Azariah Seay Milwaukee: 4 DeAndre Gholston Samba Kane Jordan Lathon Joey St. Pierre Northern Kentucky:3 David Bohm Adrian Nelson Seybian Sims Oakland: 5 Mason Gibson Emmanuel Newsome Ty Wyman Zion Young Micah Parrish Fort Wayne: 3 Max Polk Phil Robles II Jarvis Walker II Robert Morris: 5 Kam Farris Mattia Acunzo Brandon Stone Justin Winston Chase Cook Wright State: 3 Grant Basile Tanner Holden James Manns Youngstown State: 5 Alex Vargo Garrett Covington Justin Bofenkamp Luke Chicone Owen Long
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Post by gbanks on Mar 23, 2022 16:58:24 GMT -5
Interesting. I did not know that walk ons registered in the transfer portal.
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Post by Admin on Mar 26, 2022 15:35:01 GMT -5
DeAndre Gholston off the board. Committed to....our old buddy Dennis Gates and Missouri
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Post by ede on Mar 26, 2022 15:58:34 GMT -5
DeAndre Gholston off the board. Committed to....our old buddy Dennis Gates and Missouri makes u wonder if he'll go after Basile at Wright State. Wouldn't that be something. Hodge could be next.
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Post by ac on Mar 26, 2022 17:34:11 GMT -5
Gholston just a body for depth . He wasn't that good in horizons league. Gates gets $900,000 salary pool for 3 assistants bet csu assistants would love to follow him there.
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Mar 26, 2022 18:32:41 GMT -5
Gholston just a body for depth . He wasn't that good in horizons league. Gates gets $900,000 salary pool for 3 assistants bet csu assistants would love to follow him there. I disagree that he wasn’t that good. He was their best player for 2 years and is a tough scorer with size. He likely won’t be a star and maybe not even a starter at Mizzou but he’ll play. The Tallahassee CC/Horizon League connection I’m sure made it a comfortable fit for both sides.
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Post by ede on Mar 26, 2022 19:26:23 GMT -5
Gholston just a body for depth . He wasn't that good in horizons league. Gates gets $900,000 salary pool for 3 assistants bet csu assistants would love to follow him there. I disagree that he wasn’t that good. He was their best player for 2 years and is a tough scorer with size. He likely won’t be a star and maybe not even a starter at Mizzou but he’ll play. The Tallahassee CC/Horizon League connection I’m sure made it a comfortable fit for both sides. I agree Ghouston was good both Kent State and Milwaukee. He'll be able to play at and elite level.
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Post by ede on Mar 26, 2022 19:30:20 GMT -5
Gholston just a body for depth . He wasn't that good in horizons league. Gates gets $900,000 salary pool for 3 assistants bet csu assistants would love to follow him there. I personally feel both Summers and Joyce especially Joyce want the Cleveland State job real bad. I'd to see Joyce remain on the staff as the associate HC his connections could be an asset to the program.
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Post by Admin on Mar 29, 2022 13:50:14 GMT -5
Tanner Holden from Wright State just entered the transfer portal. That's a big one
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 29, 2022 13:51:27 GMT -5
Tanner Holden from Wright State just entered the transfer portal. That's a big one Would imagine he becomes an immediate target for Gates.
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Post by Admin on Mar 29, 2022 13:59:12 GMT -5
I don't know what the story is over there at Wright State with all of their best players leaving with eligibility remaining from a team that reached the NCAA tournament a few weeks ago.
I know that Wright State fan BigDWSU checks this board occasionally, maybe he can fill us in on what is going on with their program.
Whatever the case, the Horizon League is losing some of its best talent from a conference whose champion was a 16 seed in a play in game. Still going in the wrong direction as a conference.
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Post by ede on Mar 29, 2022 14:12:47 GMT -5
I don't know what the story is over there at Wright State with all of their best players leaving with eligibility remaining from a team that reached the NCAA tournament a few weeks ago. I know that Wright State fan BigDWSU checks this board occasionally, maybe he can fill us in on what is going on with their program. Whatever the case, the Horizon League is losing some of its best talent from a conference whose champion was a 16 seed in a play in game. Still going in the wrong direction as a conference. yes we are
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Post by gbanks on Mar 29, 2022 14:41:02 GMT -5
Our talent drain started a decade ago. It was just the sign of things to come for the rest of the HL (and mid majors in general).
The HL is at a point where no matter where a player transfers to, it's a step up.
That's what I liked about Gates, he stopped the hemorrhaging at CSU and started a gradual rebuild.
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Post by ede on Mar 29, 2022 16:59:44 GMT -5
Our talent drain started a decade ago. It was just the sign of things to come for the rest of the HL (and mid majors in general). The HL is at a point where no matter where a player transfers to, it's a step up. That's what I liked about Gates, he stopped the hemorrhaging at CSU and started a gradual rebuild. Yes, this will be a very important hire to keep the momentum going. I still like Summers (only if they keep Joyce too) Kimbrough I like as well. Ben McCollum. Is a D1 coach in waiting. Ohio University asst maybe? They had a very good team last year. Akron too. As well as Toledo. I'll bet a top asst. At at least one of those school applied.
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 29, 2022 17:15:57 GMT -5
I don't know what the story is over there at Wright State with all of their best players leaving with eligibility remaining from a team that reached the NCAA tournament a few weeks ago. I know that Wright State fan BigDWSU checks this board occasionally, maybe he can fill us in on what is going on with their program. Whatever the case, the Horizon League is losing some of its best talent from a conference whose champion was a 16 seed in a play in game. Still going in the wrong direction as a conference. Agreed, the conference is going in the wrong direction but the Ohio Valley, America East, and Patriot League aren’t really that much, if any, better. We need to focus on winning out of conference matchups and dominating the conference like Colgate, Vermont, and Murray State do. If we are doing those things the conference won’t matter for seeding. Ask Vermont, Murray State, and Colgate. Once youre dominating the conference year in and year out, you can look to exit stage left to a better conference. Till then, the best opportunity is to dominate the Horizon League vs. going to another conference and sitting at the bottom (See Valpo).
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 30, 2022 9:32:21 GMT -5
I can tell you what is happening at Wright State is that all these players are just looking for better opportunities for themselves and you can’t blame them. There are power 5 schools right now where every scholarship player is getting NIL money. I know of a school that is actually telling their NIL people to use it to attract transfers. A guy like Tanner in the rotation is better for a lot of schools then an unproven high school player. His likelihood of being a solid contributor are higher then a 3 star recruit. It might cost the boosters 50k. Cheap investment for a role player.
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Post by gbanks on Mar 30, 2022 10:28:52 GMT -5
I can tell you what is happening at Wright State is that all these players are just looking for better opportunities for themselves and you can’t blame them. There are power 5 schools right now where every scholarship player is getting NIL money. I know of a school that is actually telling their NIL people to use it to attract transfers. A guy like Tanner in the rotation is better for a lot of schools then an unproven high school player. His likelihood of being a solid contributor are higher then a 3 star recruit. It might cost the boosters 50k. Cheap investment for a role player. I have to admit a $50K raise, room and board, good seat at all P6 games (home and away), and a decent education, to move to another job? That sounds like a pretty good deal to me.
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Mar 30, 2022 14:49:42 GMT -5
I can tell you what is happening at Wright State is that all these players are just looking for better opportunities for themselves and you can’t blame them. There are power 5 schools right now where every scholarship player is getting NIL money. I know of a school that is actually telling their NIL people to use it to attract transfers. A guy like Tanner in the rotation is better for a lot of schools then an unproven high school player. His likelihood of being a solid contributor are higher then a 3 star recruit. It might cost the boosters 50k. Cheap investment for a role player. I have to admit a $50K raise, room and board, good seat at all P6 games (home and away), and a decent education, to move to another job? That sounds like a pretty good deal to me. I agree. I think people (not necessarily on this board) who complain about coaches leaving and players transferring for better opportunities are hypocrites. Who wouldn't leave for a contract like Gates received? Or to move from CSU to places like Louisville or MSU? I love my job and I'd leave tomorrow if my salary was tripled.
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Post by Admin on Mar 30, 2022 15:34:04 GMT -5
I never begrudged Dennis Gates at all. It's reality. Cleveland State paid Gates as much as we possibly could. Missouri paid him as much as they could which is more than 5 times what CSU could. Someone offers me 5x my salary for the same job I'm there in a nanosecond.
also LOLOLOLOL at frankiemeatballs profile picture
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Post by gbanks on Mar 30, 2022 15:37:40 GMT -5
I have to admit a $50K raise, room and board, good seat at all P6 games (home and away), and a decent education, to move to another job? That sounds like a pretty good deal to me. I agree. I think people (not necessarily on this board) who complain about coaches leaving and players transferring for better opportunities are hypocrites. Who wouldn't leave for a contract like Gates received? Or to move from CSU to places like Louisville or MSU? I love my job and I'd leave tomorrow if my salary was tripled. The other point I was trying to make is that we should not kid ourselves. We have now transitioned from a true student athlete to a paid student athlete. The 3rd party NIL allow compensation w/o the employee status (for now).
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 30, 2022 16:03:23 GMT -5
I agree. I think people (not necessarily on this board) who complain about coaches leaving and players transferring for better opportunities are hypocrites. Who wouldn't leave for a contract like Gates received? Or to move from CSU to places like Louisville or MSU? I love my job and I'd leave tomorrow if my salary was tripled. The other point I was trying to make is that we should not kid ourselves. We have now transitioned from a true student athlete to a paid student athlete. The 3rd party NIL allow compensation w/o the employee status (for now). We as a message board only need to scrounge up $600K per year and start an LLC to pay our players $50K per year also. We’d dominate the HL.
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Post by ede on Mar 30, 2022 16:51:22 GMT -5
I have to admit a $50K raise, room and board, good seat at all P6 games (home and away), and a decent education, to move to another job? That sounds like a pretty good deal to me. I agree. I think people (not necessarily on this board) who complain about coaches leaving and players transferring for better opportunities are hypocrites. Who wouldn't leave for a contract like Gates received? Or to move from CSU to places like Louisville or MSU? I love my job and I'd leave tomorrow if my salary was tripled. True but the transfer portal is killing midmajor hoops.
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Post by ede on Mar 30, 2022 17:18:43 GMT -5
Tyree Appleby back in the portal
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 30, 2022 18:16:34 GMT -5
I agree. I think people (not necessarily on this board) who complain about coaches leaving and players transferring for better opportunities are hypocrites. Who wouldn't leave for a contract like Gates received? Or to move from CSU to places like Louisville or MSU? I love my job and I'd leave tomorrow if my salary was tripled. True but the transfer portal is killing midmajor hoops. Disagree mid majors had a ton of success this year. Saint Peter made it to the Elite Eight. Mid majors have an easier time rebuilding now by being able to bring in immediate transfers. For every guy going up there will be another guy coming down because they want more minutes. Coaches just need to take advantage of it.
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Post by ede on Mar 30, 2022 18:57:59 GMT -5
True but the transfer portal is killing midmajor hoops. Disagree mid majors had a ton of success this year. Saint Peter made it to the Elite Eight. Mid majors have an easier time rebuilding now by being able to bring in immediate transfers. For every guy going up there will be another guy coming down because they want more minutes. Coaches just need to take advantage of it. They can but they always lose their best talent. Look at what's happened to Wright State.
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Post by gbanks on Mar 30, 2022 20:57:31 GMT -5
The other point I was trying to make is that we should not kid ourselves. We have now transitioned from a true student athlete to a paid student athlete. The 3rd party NIL allow compensation w/o the employee status (for now). We as a message board only need to scrounge up $600K per year and start an LLC to pay our players $50K per year also. We’d dominate the HL. Interesting concept Vikesfan. Cleveland State Vikings brought to you by ......... I'm sure someone a lot more clever than me could figure out how to coopt the branding and get a decent ROI. Get naming rights and perhaps a logo on the uniform. Frankly it's headed that way anyway. Just embrace it.
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 31, 2022 12:13:58 GMT -5
Disagree mid majors had a ton of success this year. Saint Peter made it to the Elite Eight. Mid majors have an easier time rebuilding now by being able to bring in immediate transfers. For every guy going up there will be another guy coming down because they want more minutes. Coaches just need to take advantage of it. They can but they always lose their best talent. Look at what's happened to Wright State. They also have the capability to acquire better talent easier. The ability to attack the transfer portal for smart mid major coach is a huge positive. Think about when Waters grabbed guys like Cedric and Moore. Now you can get those guys to play right away.
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Post by ede on Mar 31, 2022 12:23:40 GMT -5
They can but they always lose their best talent. Look at what's happened to Wright State. They also have the capability to acquire better talent easier. The ability to attack the transfer portal for smart mid major coach is a huge positive. Think about when Waters grabbed guys like Cedric and Moore. Now you can get those guys to play right away. Good point, just seems pretty one sided to me. It turns the Midmajors into nothing more than glorified Jucos.
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Post by gbanks on Mar 31, 2022 20:56:32 GMT -5
They also have the capability to acquire better talent easier. The ability to attack the transfer portal for smart mid major coach is a huge positive. Think about when Waters grabbed guys like Cedric and Moore. Now you can get those guys to play right away. Good point, just seems pretty one sided to me. It turns the Midmajors into nothing more than glorified Jucos. I'm pretty sure Waters brought Cedric with him. Moore just wanted to come back to Cleveland. The new coach may bring a player or 2 and some player might want to come back home. Both scenarios are independent of the portal. The portal is a drain for mid-majors. What you are saying is that P6 outcasts is good for mid majors. It used to be that mid majors could sift a little more and find those players that did not fit the P6 model (see Appleby and Forbes) and polish them up. Those days are over. There is no scenario that you can convince me that this is a good for a mid major program. The portal is going to have unintended consequences. Gates learned to leverage JUCOs and tended not to develop 4 year players. Why develop inhouse, when you may be developing them for someone else to benefit from your investment. I understand the motivation of individuals to seek the best opportunity. It's in our nature. But, fans are typically fans of teams. I like to see the Vikes get better.
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