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Post by vikesfan on Mar 19, 2023 16:28:31 GMT -5
Will aim to keep this updated. With the 22/23 season officially wrapping up, wanted to start a thread to track everything that happens between 22/23 and 23/24 seasons. This was a solid first year under Robinson (with some disappointments along the way) and I’m looking forward to him continuing to build the program. Here’s what we know today. Outgoing: Graduates: Yahel Hill (G), Deante Johnson (C), and Deshon Parker (G). Transfers: Jason Drake (G) Incoming: Commits: Daniel Young (G), Jalin Rice (G) Open Spots: 2 Verbal Commits does a pretty good job tracking roster movement: www.verbalcommits.com/schools/cleveland-state
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 19, 2023 16:46:51 GMT -5
Probably important to note that Enaruna did not celebrate Senior Night, perhaps a good sign he plans to come back vs. graduating and turning pro.
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 19, 2023 16:52:27 GMT -5
Current Roster Construction:
Guards: Lowder, Pryor, Price, Rice, Young, Robinson Wings: Williams, Woodrich, Payne Bigs: Enaruna, Arnette, Middleton
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Post by Admin on Mar 21, 2023 14:08:14 GMT -5
Need a big man badly in the middle to rebound and protect the rim with Spider Johnson leaving.
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Post by ede on Mar 21, 2023 16:46:28 GMT -5
Need a big man badly in the middle to rebound and protect the rim with Spider Johnson leaving. I swear if Robinson can land Hugley (which he won't unfortunately) it would be thr coup of the century.
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 21, 2023 17:37:48 GMT -5
Amazingly, thus far, the Vikes have lost just one player (maybe??) to the portal. Great start to keeping some continuity. I’d just like some confirmation Enaruna isn’t going pro either.
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Post by ac on Mar 21, 2023 17:46:57 GMT -5
I didn't get to any games this year from mid season late in season but that's when I would watch warm ups and the bench during games looking at players body language & players faking enthusiasm etc. To get clues who's unhappy and ready to leave
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 22, 2023 12:01:32 GMT -5
Jamir Price is out. That opens a 3rd spot. So far we have lost a couple but it’s been non contributors. The one guy I think could be biggest loss out of the graduates is Spider. If you find a way to replace his impact you could have a better team next year then we did this year.
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 22, 2023 12:30:33 GMT -5
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Post by azvike83 on Mar 22, 2023 12:37:39 GMT -5
Current Roster Construction: Guards: Lowder, Pryor, Rice, Young, Robinson Wings: Williams, Woodrich, Payne Bigs: Enaruna, Arnette, Middleton Updated...now 3 spots left. I hope Next year is gonna be even better than this year was!
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 22, 2023 12:38:03 GMT -5
Roster Updates:
Current Roster: 1. Drew Lowder 2. Ramar Pryor 3. Danny Young (incoming freshman) 4. Jalin Rice (incoming JUCO transfer) 5. Jayson Woodrich 6. Tae Williams 7. Tristan Enaruna 8. Dylan Arnette 9. Cole Middleton 10. Paxton Payne (walk-on) 11. Chase Robinson (walk-on)
Open Spots: 3
Graduates: 1. Spider Johnson 2. Deshon Parker 3. Ya Hill
Transfers: 1. Jamir Price 2. Jason Drake
Could be feasible Payne or Robinson has earned a scholarship. Incredible if we can continue to hold contributors out of the portal. Great to have such a good nucleus back. Not sure how to act…
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Post by ac on Mar 22, 2023 12:43:13 GMT -5
Robinson is on scholarship payne is a walk-on. I wouldn't be surprised if Middleton & possibly Arnette transfer also.
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 22, 2023 13:22:38 GMT -5
Robinson is on scholarship payne is a walk-on. I wouldn't be surprised if Middleton & possibly Arnette transfer also. Interesting, so they had Robinson redshirt this year? They just have plans for him if they determined to use a redshirt on him vs. the other guys like Price and Drake they wasted a year on. Are scholarships now at 12 or 13? Anyone know… didn’t Covid change it initially?
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Post by Admin on Mar 22, 2023 14:03:28 GMT -5
I would love to get Pitt transfer John Hugley who went to Brush high school. Would replace what we lose from Spider and is a true center and force in the middle.
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 22, 2023 14:34:00 GMT -5
So we have 2 scholarships open then?
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Post by ac on Mar 22, 2023 14:41:07 GMT -5
As of now 3 scholarships open.
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Post by Admin on Mar 22, 2023 14:58:35 GMT -5
We need user1 to return he would know best how many scholarships are open
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 22, 2023 16:27:53 GMT -5
I would love to get Pitt transfer John Hugley who went to Brush high school. Would replace what we lose from Spider and is a true center and force in the middle. Would replace and then some. Time for the forum to start a gofundme to get a NIL deal in place lol
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 22, 2023 17:12:32 GMT -5
Another big gone.
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Post by ac on Mar 22, 2023 17:14:05 GMT -5
Hugley would be great I see he's visiting Georgia tech today. Don't want to be insensitive but I believe he's had some mental health issues. Something that has to be considered.
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Post by gbanks on Mar 22, 2023 17:14:13 GMT -5
Please no more gaurds. Can't find court time for all the existing ones. There has to be someone in the portal who can start as a mid major.
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Post by ac on Mar 22, 2023 17:19:45 GMT -5
Again no surprise Middletons playing time diminished as season went on. We have 5 guards on roster but if they felt great about them all why would they be recruiting more guards.
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 22, 2023 17:20:46 GMT -5
Please no more gaurds. Can't find court time for all the existing ones. There has to be someone in the portal who can start as a mid major. They need a guard that can shoot.
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 22, 2023 17:54:35 GMT -5
Again no surprise Middletons playing time diminished as season went on. We have 5 guards on roster but if they felt great about them all why would they be recruiting more guards. I’d be absolutely shocked if Robinson doesn’t want to start 3 guards, a wing, and a big. Having 5 guards when you’re starting 3 ain’t enough. Plus one is a freshman and another a JUCO transfer (could end up being like Drake and Price this year). I think Robinson wants another big and some proven D1 talent at the guard spot till the young guys like Pryor, Young, and Rice can come along a bit more.
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Post by gbanks on Mar 22, 2023 18:00:16 GMT -5
Please no more gaurds. Can't find court time for all the existing ones. There has to be someone in the portal who can start as a mid major. They need a guard that can shoot. They have Lowder and Pryor is looking good. They are brining in 2 more. If they can't shoot, I guess the coach disagrees with you. I'm not sure how the rest are gaurds contributing. In this age of free agency, not sure why they are still here (it goes both ways). If you going to take a flyer, then why not wing or big.
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Post by cliffdawg on Mar 22, 2023 18:43:27 GMT -5
So far no big deal lost, wouldn’t surprise me if Arnett leaves also, all the players lost so far, none contributed this past year……I would go even further and say of the graduation players only Spider would be miss the most, I was not impress with Jack this past year, Hill had moments but his production could easily be replaces…….
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 22, 2023 19:51:18 GMT -5
They need a guard that can shoot. They have Lowder and Pryor is looking good. They are brining in 2 more. If they can't shoot, I guess the coach disagrees with you. I'm not sure how the rest are gaurds contributing. In this age of free agency, not sure why they are still here (it goes both ways). If you going to take a flyer, then why not wing or big. I think it’s more, you have two proven wings (Woodrich and Williams) and a proven big. I’m guessing Robinson wants to add some proven guards and another big. Let proven guards play while the kids grow up a bit more.
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 22, 2023 20:12:31 GMT -5
I’d also argue that we don’t really have a PG. Lowder not a true PG, he can play it in spurts but not full time IMO. Pryor definitely can’t. Young is a PG but is a freshman, seems like Rice is more of a combo guard as well.
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Post by vikesfan on Mar 22, 2023 20:31:43 GMT -5
Roster Updates:
Current Roster: 1. Drew Lowder 2. Ramar Pryor 3. Danny Young (incoming freshman) 4. Jalin Rice (incoming JUCO transfer) 5. Jayson Woodrich 6. Tae Williams 7. Tristan Enaruna 8. Dylan Arnette 9. Chase Robinson 10. OPEN 11. OPEN 12. OPEN 13. OPEN 14. Paxton Payne (walk-on)
Open Spots: 4
Graduates: 1. Spider Johnson 2. Deshon Parker 3. Ya Hill
Transfers: 1. Jamir Price 2. Jason Drake 3. Cole Middleton
Thus far, between the transfers, we’ve lost: 3.9/2.5/1.2. Shouldn’t be too hard to replace…
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Post by gbanks on Mar 22, 2023 21:38:05 GMT -5
They have Lowder and Pryor is looking good. They are brining in 2 more. If they can't shoot, I guess the coach disagrees with you. I'm not sure how the rest are gaurds contributing. In this age of free agency, not sure why they are still here (it goes both ways). If you going to take a flyer, then why not wing or big. I think it’s more, you have two proven wings (Woodrich and Williams) and a proven big. I’m guessing Robinson wants to add some proven guards and another big. Let proven guards play while the kids grow up a bit more. I always considered Williams a guard. Also, Enaruna should be paired with another big on the floor. Don't want to see him is the same situation as Grady. Williams and Enaruna really needs to develop an outside shot this summer. Both greatly contibuted to clogging up the paint on offense. This also forces the need for at least two other players on the floor as 3 point threats. Given that there are 4 open spots, I'm ok with a scoring PG that is eligible to play next year.
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