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Post by azvike83 on Mar 11, 2021 18:56:19 GMT -5
I applied for tourney tickets through the CSU Website, but also called the office....they are selling season ticket packages at a brisk pace and are very excited about the uptick in attendance for next year...they are hoping to get 3,500/game ... (about double what they were getting last year)...but think it could go even higher.
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 11, 2021 21:15:55 GMT -5
If he doesn’t leave it’s because he chose to stay not because he doesn’t have offers. The offers are there. A lot of lower level power 5 schools are hoping to replicate FSU success. Hey TOTO, quick question. Does he actually have offers or is he a candidate? I'm asking b/c I don't know. I doubt there is an offer on physical paper but he has been told by other programs he is there top choice from what two people have told me they heard through the grapevines. Most schools won’t make an actual physical offer until a candidate has agreed to a job. You always here ADs say the guy they offered was the only one they offered. Technically they aren’t lying. I would also say technically he is the top candidate but if he wants the job it’s his and the offer will be made. To be clear none of this has come from inside the athletic department. These are people I have made connections with outside of the athletic department over the years that are well versed to happenings behind the scenes. What I did find interesting was they both thought he was going to end up at different schools. One of the guys though that said he has an offer from a power 5 school said it wouldn’t shock him if Gates decided to stay for another year. Said Gates marches to the beat of his own drum very unique guy and he meant that as a positive. Said the money and prestige would be tough to turndown but if anyone might want to stick around for awhile it would be Gates. He said he would put it at 90% chance he leaves. If I had to bet on it I would think that the Boston College job would be almost impossible for him to turn down for family reasons. |
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Post by gbanks on Mar 11, 2021 22:58:25 GMT -5
Thanks for for the info. Much appreciated.
At, this point looking forward to NCAAs and some good basketball.
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Post by mrhoops on Mar 12, 2021 9:50:54 GMT -5
My guess he's going to BC. Open position, P5 school, major bucks and his wife and kids are there. It's the perfect convergence, if he wants it.
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Post by ac on Mar 12, 2021 10:42:41 GMT -5
Not judging but this seems like these 2 are apart alot lookingat jobs time-line. They must have a strong relationship i don't think many could last this way.
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 12, 2021 11:07:58 GMT -5
I applied for tourney tickets through the CSU Website, but also called the office....they are selling season ticket packages at a brisk pace and are very excited about the uptick in attendance for next year...they are hoping to get 3,500/game ... (about double what they were getting last year)...but think it could go even higher. That would be a big boost for them. I wonder how many tickets they actually have sold. |
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Post by azvike83 on Mar 12, 2021 11:12:05 GMT -5
I applied for tourney tickets through the CSU Website, but also called the office....they are selling season ticket packages at a brisk pace and are very excited about the uptick in attendance for next year...they are hoping to get 3,500/game ... (about double what they were getting last year)...but think it could go even higher. That would be a big boost for them. I wonder how many tickets they actually have sold. They did not tell me...and there is a LOT of time to continue to sell before next season starts. If we could somehow win a game (or look good losing) it will really help as well. Time will tell, I just know that sounded very optimistic/excited. |
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Post by azvike83 on Mar 12, 2021 11:22:02 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the attendance jump was from 2009 to 2010 (after our last appearance?)
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Post by user1 on Mar 12, 2021 11:25:58 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the attendance jump was from 2009 to 2010 (after our last appearance?) 2008-09: 2,395 2009-10: 2,351 2010-11: 3,112 2011-12: 3,260 2012-13: 2,167 |
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Post by ede on Mar 12, 2021 11:33:47 GMT -5
This is what winning does,let's hope they can keep it going
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Post by stanley on Mar 12, 2021 15:00:24 GMT -5
I hope Gates stays and if CSU can find the money to keep him, this program could really take off. It wouldn't be crazy to pay him. Think how much positive publicity the basketball team has generated for the school this past season, especially with a lot of the guys earning strong grades. What the basketball team is doing for CSU is more than any paid commercial can. It seems to me that every college commercial looks the same, whether it's for CSU, Akron, Ohio State, etc... Spend the money to keep Gates instead of a bunch of commercials and everyone wins.
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Post by ede on Mar 12, 2021 16:51:28 GMT -5
I hope Gates stays and if CSU can find the money to keep him, this program could really take off. It wouldn't be crazy to pay him. Think how much positive publicity the basketball team has generated for the school this past season, especially with a lot of the guys earning strong grades. What the basketball team is doing for CSU is more than any paid commercial can. It seems to me that every college commercial looks the same, whether it's for CSU, Akron, Ohio State, etc... Spend the money to keep Gates instead of a bunch of commercials and everyone wins. I agree, Garrett said a rework of his contract will happen after the Tournament. If Garrett can find the $$$ and that's a BIG if,it could be a defining moment in CSU hoops. Gates has the potential to turn CSU into a midmajor power. If he maintains this type of success. $$$ is the key. |
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Mar 13, 2021 10:46:30 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the attendance jump was from 2009 to 2010 (after our last appearance?) 2008-09: 2,395 2009-10: 2,351 2010-11: 3,112 2011-12: 3,260 2012-13: 2,167 I remember how disappointed I was in the attendance in 09-10 after winning a game in the NCAA tournament the year before. The problem was, we lost two all-time greats in J’Nathan Bullock and Cedric Jackson and the juco recruiting class was a complete failure. That team finished a disappointing .500 and lost games in front of some pretty big crowds (that buoyed the average attendance numbers). The crowds slowly increased the next couple of seasons with Norris Cole being a star and back-to-back NITs. Then after the Grady/Lewis transfers it took a dive that has continued through last season. I have always believed that Cleveland would rally around this team if we could just have some prolonged success. Every time the mainstream media starts pushing the team (like now) the team crashes back down to earth and the casual fan stops paying attention. We need a couple NCAA berths in a row and a string of consistently good basketball for it to take root. And unfortunately that’s something this program has never been able to do. |
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Post by ede on Mar 13, 2021 15:01:10 GMT -5
2008-09: 2,395 2009-10: 2,351 2010-11: 3,112 2011-12: 3,260 2012-13: 2,167 I remember how disappointed I was in the attendance in 09-10 after winning a game in the NCAA tournament the year before. The problem was, we lost two all-time greats in J’Nathan Bullock and Cedric Jackson and the juco recruiting class was a complete failure. That team finished a disappointing .500 and lost games in front of some pretty big crowds (that buoyed the average attendance numbers). The crowds slowly increased the next couple of seasons with Norris Cole being a star and back-to-back NITs. Then after the Grady/Lewis transfers it took a dive that has continued through last season. I have always believed that Cleveland would rally around this team if we could just have some prolonged success. Every time the mainstream media starts pushing the team (like now) the team crashes back down to earth and the casual fan stops paying attention. We need a couple NCAA berths in a row and a string of consistently good basketball for it to take root. And unfortunately that’s something this program has never been able to do. Well said, very good CSU history lesson. The Grady/Lewis/and much Letter on Forbes transfers were the death nail. Along that terrible Lance James/ID recruiting class that was a complete bust. IF we can keep Gates long enough (and that's a Big IF,and it's not looking good) I feel Cleveland State has finally found the guy who can bust this program on the map. |
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Mar 15, 2021 13:14:37 GMT -5
Who knows if this person is credible or not: Apparently, and thankfully, that guy was not credible. |
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Mar 15, 2021 13:43:58 GMT -5
The DePaul job is open. Gates already rumored to be a candidate. Porter Moser is a name mentioned there too, but with 3 big ten openings I can see Moser being a candidate for one of those (Indiana, Penn State, Minnesota).
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Mar 15, 2021 14:04:17 GMT -5
The Penn State job is filled which is another job Gates was linked to.
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Post by ede on Mar 15, 2021 16:37:24 GMT -5
The Penn State job is filled which is another job Gates was linked to. Could Garrett be working his magic I wonder. He has some pretty good connections |
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Post by ede on Mar 16, 2021 0:43:07 GMT -5
The Penn State job is filled which is another job Gates was linked to. Could Garrett be working his magic I wonder. He has some pretty good connections DePaul is gonna be all over him |
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Post by gbanks on Mar 16, 2021 15:40:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the updates Frankie. I think I'm a little less concerned about Gates leaving. However, this should be considered a wake up call for CSU to provide a salary bump and additional funding.
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Mar 16, 2021 16:17:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the updates Frankie. I think I'm a little less concerned about Gates leaving. However, this should be considered a wake up call for CSU to provide a salary bump and additional funding. I’m trying to talk myself out of getting my hopes up. I think the DePaul job would be hard for him to turn down. If Moser leaves Loyola I think that would be hard for Gates to turn down too. |
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Post by gbanks on Mar 16, 2021 17:37:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the updates Frankie. I think I'm a little less concerned about Gates leaving. However, this should be considered a wake up call for CSU to provide a salary bump and additional funding. I’m trying to talk myself out of getting my hopes up. I think the DePaul job would be hard for him to turn down. If Moser leaves Loyola I think that would be hard for Gates to turn down too. Given that his wife is in Boston, I don't think the hometown roots spin is that compelling of an attraction in itself. I think Gates could create a program at CSU that goes to NCAAs year after year. That would look pretty good on his resume. DePaul in the Big East would be much harder. Loyola kind of already expects that. I don't think Loyola would have the money to buy out his contract and give him a decent bump. |
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Post by ede on Mar 16, 2021 18:08:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the updates Frankie. I think I'm a little less concerned about Gates leaving. However, this should be considered a wake up call for CSU to provide a salary bump and additional funding. absolutely |
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Post by ede on Mar 16, 2021 18:11:33 GMT -5
I’m trying to talk myself out of getting my hopes up. I think the DePaul job would be hard for him to turn down. If Moser leaves Loyola I think that would be hard for Gates to turn down too. Given that his wife is in Boston, I don't think the hometown roots spin is that compelling of an attraction in itself. I think Gates could create a program at CSU that goes to NCAAs year after year. That would look pretty good on his resume. DePaul in the Big East would be much harder. Loyola kind of already expects that. I don't think Loyola would have the money to buy out his contract and give him a decent bump. lol Loyola has a 700 million dollar endowment, they have the $$$ and then some,how u think they keep Moser. |
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Mar 16, 2021 18:55:13 GMT -5
I’m trying to talk myself out of getting my hopes up. I think the DePaul job would be hard for him to turn down. If Moser leaves Loyola I think that would be hard for Gates to turn down too. Given that his wife is in Boston, I don't think the hometown roots spin is that compelling of an attraction in itself. I think Gates could create a program at CSU that goes to NCAAs year after year. That would look pretty good on his resume. DePaul in the Big East would be much harder. Loyola kind of already expects that. I don't think Loyola would have the money to buy out his contract and give him a decent bump. It’s honestly probably easier to get a direct flight to Boston from Chicago than Cleveland. And Gates and his wife have never worked in the same city - as crazy as that sounds. She was at Duke and then South Florida before BC, and she attended Howard University. |
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Post by gbanks on Mar 16, 2021 19:24:24 GMT -5
Given that his wife is in Boston, I don't think the hometown roots spin is that compelling of an attraction in itself. I think Gates could create a program at CSU that goes to NCAAs year after year. That would look pretty good on his resume. DePaul in the Big East would be much harder. Loyola kind of already expects that. I don't think Loyola would have the money to buy out his contract and give him a decent bump. lol Loyola has a 700 million dollar endowment, they have the $$$ and then some,how u think they keep Moser. Harvard has over $40B. I'm not sure they will spend it on sports. OSU only has $580M in their endowment by comparison. I'm not sure there is a direct relationship. Anyway, I get your point. I just remember the MVC had to force them to commit more funds to sports as a condition of joining the MVC. |
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Post by ede on Mar 16, 2021 20:30:22 GMT -5
lol Loyola has a 700 million dollar endowment, they have the $$$ and then some,how u think they keep Moser. Harvard has over $40B. I'm not sure they will spend it on sports. OSU only has $580M in their endowment by comparison. I'm not sure there is a direct relationship. Anyway, I get your point. I just remember the MVC had to force them to commit more funds to sports as a condition of joining the MVC. Loyola has Ivy league level academic. Most private schools do a better job of fund raising than public and they have very wealthy donors and boosters. Plus being affiliated with the catholic church help. Tiny Aberdene Christian has an endowment of 100million. CSU 65 million. But Harvard and Loyola use there's on academics, and rightly so. |
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Post by gbanks on Mar 19, 2021 22:25:43 GMT -5
Yep Big D, his name is all over the place. When you do good things, people notice. |
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Post by ede on Mar 20, 2021 8:53:48 GMT -5
Yep Big D, his name is all over the place. When you do good things, people notice. Going to be an interesting off season. Either CSU finds the $$$$ or a suitable replacement for Gates. Mincy is a bad idea. Promote from within is a better option I feel. |
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Mar 20, 2021 10:08:23 GMT -5
Yep Big D, his name is all over the place. When you do good things, people notice. I wasn't trying to stir anything up or piss you guys off. His name has been brought up for over a week on Minnesota's board and 247 site and it wasn't one of the jobs you were talking about here. I posted the article just to make you guys aware of it. I don't think you are going to be able to hang onto Gates but for the HL's sake I hope you can. We need more good teams not more rebuilds. I mentioned the Minnesota job but more so as a possible landing spot for Moser, which would then open Loyola and keep DePaul open. I could be wrong, but both of those jobs seem like a more realistic landing spot than a mid tier Big Ten job. I love Gates but if I’m a Minnesota fan that feels like a big jump. |
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