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Post by frankiemeatballs on Mar 21, 2022 14:31:25 GMT -5
McCollum has one hell of an impressive resume. Would love to see him in the mix, but I see some obstacles. He's an undergrad and grad alum of NWMS and he has a young family that's entrenched in the community. It's difficult to uproot in a situation like that. The money would have to be compelling for him to give up the community and professional security he has.
Regardless, he is definitely a great coach. Let's see what happens. he's a little bit younger than Gates, who has a wife and Young family too. Pretty much the same situation It’s different. Gates and his wife don’t live in the same city. She’s moved multiple times to different regions and he was from Chicago and went to school out west before settling in the south. He had no roots. McCollum is from Iowa and settled at NW Missouri which is essentially Iowa. He’s an alum and has basically been there for 20 years as a player and coach. I’m assuming his wife is from the area/an alum as well. His only other stop was 4 years as an assistant at Emporia State which is rural Kansas between Topeka and Wichita and is only a few hours south of Iowa. He’s literally spent his entire life within a few hundred mile radius and has never lived in a city. The population of the town they’re located in is 11,000. I believe that good coaches can win games anywhere. Sometimes styles don’t translate as you go up in competition and face better athletes, but by the sounds of it, his should translate. I see two keys: his desire to be here, and his ability to recruit D1 athletes to an urban setting as opposed to D2 athletes to a rural setting. I personally would feel much more comfortable with him as a candidate if he had a more diverse coaching background.
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Post by ede on Mar 21, 2022 15:06:21 GMT -5
he's a little bit younger than Gates, who has a wife and Young family too. Pretty much the same situation It’s different. Gates and his wife don’t live in the same city. She’s moved multiple times to different regions and he was from Chicago and went to school out west before settling in the south. He had no roots. McCollum is from Iowa and settled at NW Missouri which is essentially Iowa. He’s an alum and has basically been there for 20 years as a player and coach. I’m assuming his wife is from the area/an alum as well. His only other stop was 4 years as an assistant at Emporia State which is rural Kansas between Topeka and Wichita and is only a few hours south of Iowa. He’s literally spent his entire life within a few hundred mile radius and has never lived in a city. The population of the town they’re located in is 11,000. I believe that good coaches can win games anywhere. Sometimes styles don’t translate as you go up in competition and face better athletes, but by the sounds of it, his should translate. I see two keys: his desire to be here, and his ability to recruit D1 athletes to an urban setting as opposed to D2 athletes to a rural setting. I personally would feel much more comfortable with him as a candidate if he had a more diverse coaching background. He has the same background as Linc Darner and Hall fame coaches Bruce Pearl and Bo Ryan EARLIER in their careers.
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Mar 21, 2022 15:49:09 GMT -5
It’s different. Gates and his wife don’t live in the same city. She’s moved multiple times to different regions and he was from Chicago and went to school out west before settling in the south. He had no roots. McCollum is from Iowa and settled at NW Missouri which is essentially Iowa. He’s an alum and has basically been there for 20 years as a player and coach. I’m assuming his wife is from the area/an alum as well. His only other stop was 4 years as an assistant at Emporia State which is rural Kansas between Topeka and Wichita and is only a few hours south of Iowa. He’s literally spent his entire life within a few hundred mile radius and has never lived in a city. The population of the town they’re located in is 11,000. I believe that good coaches can win games anywhere. Sometimes styles don’t translate as you go up in competition and face better athletes, but by the sounds of it, his should translate. I see two keys: his desire to be here, and his ability to recruit D1 athletes to an urban setting as opposed to D2 athletes to a rural setting. I personally would feel much more comfortable with him as a candidate if he had a more diverse coaching background. He has the same background as Linc Darner and Hall fame coaches Bruce Pearl and Bo Ryan EARLIER in their careers. Their only similarities are being successful D2 coaches. Pearl is from Boston and had been around before taking the head job at Southern Indiana (which is in a small city). That wasn’t a stretch to project him to Milwaukee. Darner is the same, he moved all around the country before getting his first head coaching job. And Green Bay isn’t a major metropolitan area. Plus, although he had some decent success at GB, I’m not sure that’s the ideal example we should be aspiring for. Im pretty confident that McCollum can coach at this level. I’m just not sure Cleveland/CSU is the right fit for him.
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Post by ede on Mar 21, 2022 15:51:42 GMT -5
He has the same background as Linc Darner and Hall fame coaches Bruce Pearl and Bo Ryan EARLIER in their careers. Their only similarities are being successful D2 coaches. Pearl is from Boston and had been around before taking the head job at Southern Indiana (which is in a small city). That wasn’t a stretch to project him to Milwaukee. Darner is the same, he moved all around the country before getting his first head coaching job. And Green Bay isn’t a major metropolitan area. Plus, although he had some decent success at GB I’m not sure that’s the ideal example we should be aspiring for. Im pretty confident that McCollum can coach at this level. I’m just not sure Cleveland/CSU is the right fit for him. Whose your personal choice
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Post by ede on Mar 21, 2022 15:53:12 GMT -5
Their only similarities are being successful D2 coaches. Pearl is from Boston and had been around before taking the head job at Southern Indiana (which is in a small city). That wasn’t a stretch to project him to Milwaukee. Darner is the same, he moved all around the country before getting his first head coaching job. And Green Bay isn’t a major metropolitan area. Plus, although he had some decent success at GB I’m not sure that’s the ideal example we should be aspiring for. Im pretty confident that McCollum can coach at this level. I’m just not sure Cleveland/CSU is the right fit for him. Whose your personal choice Rob Summers/Dru Joyce, Ben McCollum and Jermaine Kimbrough are my top 3.
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Post by frankiemeatballs on Mar 21, 2022 16:20:30 GMT -5
Their only similarities are being successful D2 coaches. Pearl is from Boston and had been around before taking the head job at Southern Indiana (which is in a small city). That wasn’t a stretch to project him to Milwaukee. Darner is the same, he moved all around the country before getting his first head coaching job. And Green Bay isn’t a major metropolitan area. Plus, although he had some decent success at GB I’m not sure that’s the ideal example we should be aspiring for. Im pretty confident that McCollum can coach at this level. I’m just not sure Cleveland/CSU is the right fit for him. Whose your personal choice I don’t know without knowing who’s actually being considered. I like Kimbrough but I know him personally so I’m probably biased. I’m intrigued by Henderson if we go with a first time assistant. I’ll throw a random name out that’s probably a pipe dream but I’ve been impressed with Austin Claunch at Nicholls St. Not that CSU is a huge step up that would entice him to leave the south (Houston native), but he’s making one of the lowest salaries in D1 and was been very successful. I would also be on the lookout for a coach like Gary Waters - a successful mid major coach who didn’t cut it at a higher level and is looking for work (how about a Gates for Cuanzo Martin swap?). I wouldn’t be opposed at all to McCollum either.
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Post by theonetheonly on Mar 21, 2022 16:26:47 GMT -5
I wonder how much the timing had to do with Kimbrough’s candidacy last time? He had just left Wyoming for Loyola and maybe didn’t want to back out of that commitment. I also wonder if Garrett had his own short list (most ADs do) and with the late opening he just moved quickly through that list. I don’t know, just speculation. This time feels different. He’s added high major experience at ASU and he’s been there for a full season. I would imagine Kimbrough would apply and I think Garrett would be crazy not to give him an interview with his resume and local/CSU ties. Kimbrough campaigned for the job. He wanted it really bad.
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Post by ede on Mar 21, 2022 16:40:35 GMT -5
I wonder how much the timing had to do with Kimbrough’s candidacy last time? He had just left Wyoming for Loyola and maybe didn’t want to back out of that commitment. I also wonder if Garrett had his own short list (most ADs do) and with the late opening he just moved quickly through that list. I don’t know, just speculation. This time feels different. He’s added high major experience at ASU and he’s been there for a full season. I would imagine Kimbrough would apply and I think Garrett would be crazy not to give him an interview with his resume and local/CSU ties. Kimbrough campaigned for the job. He wanted it really bad. From here and has local recruiting ties. I would not mine this hire.
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Post by ede on Mar 21, 2022 16:50:28 GMT -5
D Youngs dad follows Kimbrough. He could at least keep our local recruiting intact.
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Post by ede on Mar 21, 2022 19:46:28 GMT -5
I don't think you have a shot at Ben McCollum. He turned down Milwaukee and they offered him more than what CSU was paying Gates last year. Didn't know that, doesn't bode well.
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Post by Admin on Mar 21, 2022 19:48:28 GMT -5
I don't think you have a shot at Ben McCollum. He turned down Milwaukee and they offered him more than what CSU was paying Gates last year. Didn't know that, doesn't bode well. No biggie. We just hire someone else.
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Post by user1 on Mar 22, 2022 7:55:49 GMT -5
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